Setting: A simple podcast setup or a candid video recording. The vibe is intense, serious, and focused on exposing “hidden truths” about the Vancouver Downtown Eastside (DTES).
Mike Jukic: We’re looking at East Hastings today, Joe. Everyone’s talking about the “mental health crisis.” The city, the province—they all have these task forces. They look at the people on the street and they see broken minds. But what do we see?
Joe Jukic: We see a broken system, Mike. We see a spiritual and biological war. You know, I was reading Isaiah 30:20 this morning. It hit me like a ton of bricks. “Although the Lord gives you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, your teachers will be hidden no more; with your own eyes you will see them.”
Mike Jukic: “Bread of adversity.” That’s not a metaphor anymore, is it?
Joe Jukic: It’s literal. It is absolutely literal. Look at what we are feeding the poor. What is the “bread of adversity” today? It’s conventional wheat sprayed with glyphosate. It’s a neurotoxin. We are handing out sandwiches on the street corner that are destroying the gut lining, and the gut is the second brain. If you poison the gut, you poison the mind.
Mike Jukic: And the “water of affliction”?
Joe Jukic: Tap water. Full of chlorine, fluoride, heavy metals, pharmaceutical runoff. You take a human being, you strip them of their assets, and then you feed them poison. And then you stand back and say, “Oh, look, they’re mentally ill.”
Mike Jukic: Exactly. And that’s the deception. I look at that community—half of those people aren’t mentally ill in the clinical sense. They are poverty-stricken. They are refugees of an economic war.
Joe Jukic: The diagnostic manual is wrong. You want to see true insanity? Don’t look at the tent in Oppenheimer Park. Look at the towers downtown. Look at the bankers.
Mike Jukic: That’s where the delusion is. The belief that you can create money out of nothing, attach debt to it, and enslave a population mathematically—that is the sickness. The banker creating currency as debt is the psychopath. The guy on the street is just the collateral damage of that psychosis.
Joe Jukic: So, what’s the fix? It’s not more pills. It’s not another government facility with fluorescent lights.
Mike Jukic: It’s sovereignty. Give them their ground back.
Joe Jukic: Right. Let them have the tent city at Oppenheimer Park. Stop bulldozing their homes. But here’s the twist—change the aid.
Mike Jukic: Instead of social workers managing behaviors…
Joe Jukic: …Have the mental health workers act as delivery drivers. Don’t bring them drugs. Bring them Silver Hills sprouted grain bread. Bring them organic, living food. Bring them triple-filtered, clean water.
Mike Jukic: You flush the glyphosate out. You clean the blood. You stop the “bread of adversity.”
Joe Jukic: Exactly. You treat the body with respect, you stop the chemical assault, and suddenly, the “mental illness” evaporates. Their teachers will be hidden no more. They’ll see clearly for the first time in years.
Mike Jukic: Simple. Biological reality first. Economic reality second. The rest is just noise.